Tartaglia, Niccolo, Quesiti et inventioni diverse, 1554

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                cioe per la groſſezza de quelle. </s>
                <s id="s.001239">Et per tanto quantunque habbia uiſto la groſſezza del
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                le mura, et torrioni de tai citta, non hauendo conſiderata la ſua forma non poſſo far giu
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                dicio di quello, che me ha adimandato
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                V.S.
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                perche quella (ſe ben me aricordo) me ha adi
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                mandato, ſe à me mi pare che lo ingegno dell'huomo ſia peruenuto à quel ſublime gra­
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                do doue ſia poßibile de peruenire, nel fortificare una citta. </s>
                <s id="s.001240">Onde ſe lo ingegno dell huo
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                mo, in ſimil caſo (come di ſopra è detto) ſe approua per la forma, & non hauendo io
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                conſiderato alcuna forma non poſſo far alcun giudicio.
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                P. D
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                oman de ſera ui uoglio
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                moſtrar il diſſegno d'una citta de Italia, la qual è giudicata ineſpugnabile, uorro poi
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                che ſopra la forma di quella me dicati la uoſtra opinione, cioe ſe la ſara ingenioſa­
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                mente fabricata.
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                <s id="s.001241">QVESITO SECONDO FATTO DAL
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                medeſimo Signor Prior di Barletta.
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                <s id="s.001242">PRIORE. V
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                edeti qua, queſto è il diſſegno della pianta de
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                Turino, qual da gli
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                huomini de ingegno è giudicato eſſer ineſpugnabile. </s>
                <s id="s.001243">Hor che diceti di queſta figu
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                ra.
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                N. I
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                n questa tal figura, non ui dicerno alcuna gran ſottilita d'ingegno.
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                P. </s>
                <s id="s.001244">O
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                uoi
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                ſeti, non ſolamente contra alla opinione d'ogn'uno, ma anchora contra à tutto quello,
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                che per ſperientia ſe è ueduto, toccato, e palpato.
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                N. N
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                on dico, ne manco uoglio di­
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                re, che Turino non ſia forte, & forſi fortiſ­
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                ſimo, perche una citta puo eſſere alle uolte
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                forte per la natura del luoco doue che la ſe
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                ritroua, & alle uolte ſolamente per artificio
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                dell'huomo, & alle uolte per l'uno, e per l'al
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                tro. </s>
                <s id="s.001245">Quelle che ſono forte ſolamente per la
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                natura del luoco (cioe quando che quella fuſ­
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                ſe cinta, ouer cir
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                da acque, fiumi, ouer
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                paludi) io non ne parlo, perche il laude di tal
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                ſua fortezza ſi debbe attribuire piu preſto
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                alla natura, che all'ingegno dell'huomo. </s>
                <s id="s.001246">Ma
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                quelle che ſono forte ſolamente per artificio
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                dell'huomo, tal ſua fortezza puo accadere
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                in dui modi, cioe tal hora puo eſſer forte, piu per uigor della pura materia, che della for
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                ma, cioe piu per uigor delle ſue groſſe mura, baſtioni, larghe & profonde foſſe, che dal
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                la forma di quella, il qual modo, anchor che faccia quaſi lo effetto diſiderato, à me non
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                pare che ſia de molto ingegno.
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                L'
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                altro modo è, che talhora una citta puo eſſer forte piu
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                per uigore della forma, che della materia, cioe che la forma delle mura del circuito de
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                tal citta, potria eſſer alle uolte di tal ſorte, che quella non ſaria di menor impedimento,
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                ouer ostacolo alli nemici, di quello che ſaria le ſue groſſe mura, bastioni, larghe et pro­
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                fonde foſſe, la qual coſa eſſendo, giudicareital opraeſſer compoſta, ouer ordinata da
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                non mediocre ingegno.
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                P. M
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                auoglio che ſappiati qualmente la detta citta è fortißi­
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                ma, & nonſolamente per la pura materia, ma anchora per la buona forma, & accio
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